ZLA Ground Stop

Ryan B
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ZLA Ground Stop

Post by Ryan B »

Hot off the printer from work...\
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ZLA ground stop due to ATC Zero - I guess they're having ERAM (flight data and radar processing) issues.\
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Is PE simulating this lol?
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tshuff
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Re: ZLA Ground Stop

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Craziness.

Airspace is definitely dead!

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Re: ZLA Ground Stop

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ATC Zero... Yeesh!!! I hate it when that happens! Someone has a lot of 'splainin to do at ZLA!

ATCSCC ADVZY 113 ZLA 04/30/2014 ZLA GROUND STOP
RAW TEXT:

ATCSCC ADVZY 113 ZLA 04/30/14 ZLA GROUND STOP
DESTINATION AIRPORT: ZLA (TO AND THROUGH)
FACILITIES INCLUDED: ALL + CZY
GROUND STOP PERIOD: 2100-2200
REASON: ERAM/DARC FAILURE
REMARKS: STOP ALL ACFT TO AND THROUGH ZLA.

14/04/30 21:13 DCCOPS./nfs/lxstn37


ATCSCC ADVZY 123 DCC 04/30/2014 ZLA ATC 0, UNABLE TO ACCEPT TRAFFIC_FYI
MESSAGE:
ZLA HAS EXPERIENCED AN ERAM/AUTOMATION FAILURE AND IS UNABLE TO
ACCEPT ANY AIRCRAFT. THIS APPLIES TO ARRIVALS, DEPARTURES AND
ENROUTE FLIGHTS. HOLDING AND DIVERSIONS ARE ALREADY BEING
EXPERIENCED IN THE 1ST TIER ARTCCS. DUE TO SIGNIFICANT VOLUME THAT
WAS ALREADY ENROUTE TO ZLA DESTINATIONS, HEAVY VOLUME WITH GRIDLOCK
POTENTIAL IS POSSIBLE AT PHX AND SOME ZLA 1ST TIER AIRPORTS.
STAKEHOLDERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO HAVE A DIVERSION PLAN IN MIND AT A
DESTINATION THAT CAN ACCOMIDATE THE FLIGHT.
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Mark Hargrove
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Re: ZLA Ground Stop

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DARC = Direct Access Radar Channel
ERAM = En Route Automation Modernization

"Modernization"

Nothing more "modern" than having a computer system crash!

Edit: Looks like it was the ERAM. Here is a link to what ERAM is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERAM

Edit: And the stop was lifted at about 3:20 PDT, so the total outage was about 1 hour long.

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Ryan Geckler
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Re: ZLA Ground Stop

Post by Ryan Geckler »

I was told they lost both ERAM and EBUS (the new DARC system)... so they had primary radar but no secondary radar. TRACONs/Towers were unaffected as far as I know.

This is why controllers still learn non-radar ;)
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Rick Stratman
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Re: ZLA Ground Stop

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Yea I was listening to SNA on live ATC and it sounded like controlled chaos as the controllers were telling the crews needed all flight plans had to be resubmited

As there was a system crash and all plans were dumped.

I work in IT and I would not want to be one responsible for that outage.
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Re: ZLA Ground Stop

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I picked a hell of a day to stop sniffing glue.
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Re: ZLA Ground Stop

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Re: ZLA Ground Stop

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Too funny :)
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