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ZLA ground stop due to ATC Zero - I guess they're having ERAM (flight data and radar processing) issues.\
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Is PE simulating this lol?
ZLA Ground Stop
ZLA Ground Stop
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Re: ZLA Ground Stop
Craziness.
Airspace is definitely dead!
Airspace is definitely dead!
Re: ZLA Ground Stop
ATC Zero... Yeesh!!! I hate it when that happens! Someone has a lot of 'splainin to do at ZLA!
ATCSCC ADVZY 113 ZLA 04/30/2014 ZLA GROUND STOP
RAW TEXT:
ATCSCC ADVZY 113 ZLA 04/30/14 ZLA GROUND STOP
DESTINATION AIRPORT: ZLA (TO AND THROUGH)
FACILITIES INCLUDED: ALL + CZY
GROUND STOP PERIOD: 2100-2200
REASON: ERAM/DARC FAILURE
REMARKS: STOP ALL ACFT TO AND THROUGH ZLA.
14/04/30 21:13 DCCOPS./nfs/lxstn37
ATCSCC ADVZY 123 DCC 04/30/2014 ZLA ATC 0, UNABLE TO ACCEPT TRAFFIC_FYI
MESSAGE:
ZLA HAS EXPERIENCED AN ERAM/AUTOMATION FAILURE AND IS UNABLE TO
ACCEPT ANY AIRCRAFT. THIS APPLIES TO ARRIVALS, DEPARTURES AND
ENROUTE FLIGHTS. HOLDING AND DIVERSIONS ARE ALREADY BEING
EXPERIENCED IN THE 1ST TIER ARTCCS. DUE TO SIGNIFICANT VOLUME THAT
WAS ALREADY ENROUTE TO ZLA DESTINATIONS, HEAVY VOLUME WITH GRIDLOCK
POTENTIAL IS POSSIBLE AT PHX AND SOME ZLA 1ST TIER AIRPORTS.
STAKEHOLDERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO HAVE A DIVERSION PLAN IN MIND AT A
DESTINATION THAT CAN ACCOMIDATE THE FLIGHT.
ATCSCC ADVZY 113 ZLA 04/30/2014 ZLA GROUND STOP
RAW TEXT:
ATCSCC ADVZY 113 ZLA 04/30/14 ZLA GROUND STOP
DESTINATION AIRPORT: ZLA (TO AND THROUGH)
FACILITIES INCLUDED: ALL + CZY
GROUND STOP PERIOD: 2100-2200
REASON: ERAM/DARC FAILURE
REMARKS: STOP ALL ACFT TO AND THROUGH ZLA.
14/04/30 21:13 DCCOPS./nfs/lxstn37
ATCSCC ADVZY 123 DCC 04/30/2014 ZLA ATC 0, UNABLE TO ACCEPT TRAFFIC_FYI
MESSAGE:
ZLA HAS EXPERIENCED AN ERAM/AUTOMATION FAILURE AND IS UNABLE TO
ACCEPT ANY AIRCRAFT. THIS APPLIES TO ARRIVALS, DEPARTURES AND
ENROUTE FLIGHTS. HOLDING AND DIVERSIONS ARE ALREADY BEING
EXPERIENCED IN THE 1ST TIER ARTCCS. DUE TO SIGNIFICANT VOLUME THAT
WAS ALREADY ENROUTE TO ZLA DESTINATIONS, HEAVY VOLUME WITH GRIDLOCK
POTENTIAL IS POSSIBLE AT PHX AND SOME ZLA 1ST TIER AIRPORTS.
STAKEHOLDERS ARE ENCOURAGED TO HAVE A DIVERSION PLAN IN MIND AT A
DESTINATION THAT CAN ACCOMIDATE THE FLIGHT.
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Re: ZLA Ground Stop
DARC = Direct Access Radar Channel
ERAM = En Route Automation Modernization
"Modernization"
Nothing more "modern" than having a computer system crash!
Edit: Looks like it was the ERAM. Here is a link to what ERAM is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERAM
Edit: And the stop was lifted at about 3:20 PDT, so the total outage was about 1 hour long.
-M.
ERAM = En Route Automation Modernization
"Modernization"
Nothing more "modern" than having a computer system crash!
Edit: Looks like it was the ERAM. Here is a link to what ERAM is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ERAM
Edit: And the stop was lifted at about 3:20 PDT, so the total outage was about 1 hour long.
-M.
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Re: ZLA Ground Stop
I was told they lost both ERAM and EBUS (the new DARC system)... so they had primary radar but no secondary radar. TRACONs/Towers were unaffected as far as I know.
This is why controllers still learn non-radar
This is why controllers still learn non-radar
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Re: ZLA Ground Stop
Yea I was listening to SNA on live ATC and it sounded like controlled chaos as the controllers were telling the crews needed all flight plans had to be resubmited
As there was a system crash and all plans were dumped.
I work in IT and I would not want to be one responsible for that outage.
As there was a system crash and all plans were dumped.
I work in IT and I would not want to be one responsible for that outage.
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Re: ZLA Ground Stop
I picked a hell of a day to stop sniffing glue.
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Re: ZLA Ground Stop
Keith Smith wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_rWja1Xiu8
Too funny